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>From MILDRED FERENTINO:

"To do so is right, and one must not give way or retreat or leave one's post, but both in war and in courts and everywhere else, one must obey the commands of one's city and country, or persuade it as to the nature of justice. It is impious to bring violence to bear against your mother or father, it is much more so to use it against your country." pg 51

>rm says: This is one point, about impiety. There's more to the story. Look at the specifics of what the laws say to Socrates.

>From nr:

socrates feels that you should have more alligance to your country than even your mother and father. your country should be the most important thing to you.he argues this by stating that you should do what your country tells you to do, no matter the cost, even your life.

>rm says: Yes, but why should one have more allegiance to one's country than to one's parents?

Plato Reading Guide 46. "You must either persuade [your country] or obey its orders, and endure in silence whatever it instructs you to endure, whether blows or bonds, and if it leads you into war to be wounded or killed, you must obey." (51b) How does Socrates argue for this position?		Back to Plato Reading Guide Back to Philosophy 101 Home Next Question
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